Divide Logarithms

Logarithms may look difficult to use, but just like exponents or polynomials, you just need to learn the correct techniques. You only need to know a couple basic properties to divide two logarithms of the same base, or to expand a logarithm that contains a quotient.

Steps

Dividing Logarithms by Hand

  1. Check for negative numbers and ones. This method covers problems in the form <math>\frac{\log_{b}(x)}{\log_{b}(a)}</math>. However, it does not work for a few special cases:[1]
    • The log of a negative number is undefined for all bases (such as <math>\log(-3)</math> or <math>\log_{4}(-5)</math>). Write "no solution."
    • The log of zero is also undefined for all bases. If you see a term such as <math>\ln(0)</math>, write "no solution."
    • The log of one in any base (<math>\log(1)</math>) always equals zero, since <math>x^{0} = 1</math> for all values of x. Replace that logarithm with 1 instead of using the method below.
    • If the two logarithms have different bases, such as <math>\frac{log_{3}(x)}{log_{4}(a)}</math>, and you cannot simplify either one into an integer, the problem is not feasible to solve by hand.
  2. Convert the expression into one logarithm. Assuming you did not find any of the exceptions above, you can now simplify the problem into one logarithm. To do this, use the formula <math>\frac{\log_{b}(x)}{\log_{b}(a)} = \log_{a}(x)</math>.
    • Example 1: Solve the problem <math>\frac{\log{16}}{\log{2}}</math>.
      Start by converting this into one logarithm using the formula above: <math>\frac{\log{16}}{\log{2}} = \log_{2}(16)</math>.
    • This formula is the "change of base" formula, derived from basic logarithmic properties.
  3. Calculate by hand if possible. Remember, to solve <math>\log_{a}(x)</math>, think "<math>a^{?} = x</math>" or "What exponent can I raise a by to get x?" It's not always feasible to solve this without a calculator, but if you're lucky, you'll end up with an easily simplified logarithm.
    • Example 1 (cont.): Rewrite <math>\log_{2}(16)</math> as <math>2^{?} = 16</math>. The value of "?" is the answer to the problem. You may need to find it by trial and error:
      <math>2^{2} = 2 * 2 = 4</math>
      <math>2^{3} = 4 * 2 = 8</math>
      <math>2^{4} = 8 * 2 = 16</math>
      16 is what you were looking for, so <math>\log_{2}(16)</math> = 4.
  4. Leave the answer in logarithm form if you cannot simplify it. Some logarithms are very difficult to solve by hand. You'll need a calculator if you need the answer for a practical purpose. If you're solving problems in math class, your teacher most likely expects you to leave the answer as a logarithm. Here's another example using this method on a more difficult problem:
    • Example 2: What is <math>\frac{\log_{3}(58)}{\log_{3}(7)}</math>?
    • Convert this into one logarithm: <math>\frac{\log_{3}(58)}{\log_{3}(7)} = \log_{7}(58)</math>. (Notice that the 3 in each initial log disappears; this is true for any base.)
    • Rewrite as <math>7^{?} = 58</math> and test possible values of ?:
      <math>7^{2} = 7 * 7 = 49</math>
      <math>7^{3} = 49 * 7 = 343</math>
      Since 58 falls between these two numbers, <math>\log_{7}(58)</math> has no integer answer.
    • Leave your answer as <math>\log_{7}(58)</math>.

Working with the Log of a Quotient

  1. Start with a division problem inside a logarithm. This section helps you solve problems that include expressions in the form <math>\log_{a}(\frac{x}{y})</math>.
    • For example, start with this problem:
      "Solve for n if <math>\log_{3}(\frac{27}{6n}) = -6 - \log_{3}(6)</math>."
  2. Check for negative numbers. The logarithm of a negative number is undefined. If x or y are a negative numbers, confirm that the problem has a solution before you continue:
    • If either x or y is negative, there is no solution to the problem.
    • If both x and y are negative, remove the negative signs using the property <math>\frac{-x}{-y} = \frac{x}{y}</math>
    • There are no logarithms of negative numbers in the example problem, so you can continue to the next step.
  3. Expand the quotient into two logarithms. One useful property of logarithms is described by the formula <math>\log_{a}(\frac{x}{y}) = \log_{a}(x) - \log_{a}(y)</math>. In other words, the log of a quotient is always equal to the log of the numerator minus the log of the denominator.[2]
    • Use this to expand the left side of the example problem:
      <math>\log_{3}(\frac{27}{6n}) = \log_{3}(27) - \log_{3}(6n)</math>
    • Substitute this back into the original equation:
      <math>\log_{3}(\frac{27}{6n}) = -6 - \log_{3}(6)</math>

      <math>\log_{3}(27) - \log_{3}(6n) = -6 - \log_{3}(6)</math>
  4. Simplify the logarithms if possible. If any of the new logarithms in the expression have an integer answer, simplify them now.
    • The example problem has a new term: <math>\log_{3}(27)</math>. Since 33 = 27, simplify <math>\log_{3}(27)</math> to 3.
    • The full equation is now:
      <math>3 - \log_{3}(6n) = -6 - \log_{3}(6)</math>
  5. Isolate the variable. Just like any algebra problem, it helps to isolate the term with the variable on one side of the equation. Combine like terms whenever possible to simplify the equation.
    • <math>3 - \log_{3}(6n) = -6 - \log_{3}(6)</math>
      <math>9 - \log_{3}(6n) = -\log_{3}(6)</math>
      <math>\log_{3}(6n) = 9 + \log_{3}(6)</math>.
  6. Use additional properties of logarithms when necessary. To isolate the variable from other terms inside the same logarithm, Solve-Logarithms.
    • In the example problem, the n is still trapped inside the term <math>\log_{3}(6n)</math>.
      In order to isolate the n, use the product property of logarithms: <math>\log_{a}(bc) = \log_{a}(b) + \log{a}(c)</math>
      <math>\log_{3}(6n) = \log_{3}(6) + \log_{3}(n)</math>
    • Substitute this back into the full equation:
      <math>\log_{3}(6n) = 9 + \log_{3}(6)</math>
      <math>\log_{3}(6) + \log_{3}(n) = 9 + \log_{3}(6)</math>
  7. Continue simplifying until you find the solution. Repeat the same algebra and logarithmic techniques to solve the problem. If there is no integer solution, use a calculator and round to the nearest significant figure.
    • <math>\log_{3}(6) + \log_{3}(n) = 9 + \log_{3}(6)</math>
      <math>\log_{3}(n) = 9</math>
      Since 39 = 19683, n =19683



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